Hiroshima, 6 August 1945

[ThatOwlWoman]

Which fascists did you take up arms to fight against?

The JPP mods.

 

[AProudLefty]

Not if the majority were like us. I do not support war. I never have. I have been a pacifist my whole life. I will die a pacifist.

Pretty much most people are pacifist. But what can we do really?

 

[Jack]

Interesting comment. In all the years it's been my displeasure to share forums with you, I have never once seen you claim that you served in our military. Doesn't that make YOU a "deadbeat" as well? Or do you consider yourself a patriot because you're okay with sending other ppl to die for your freedom to act like an ass?

I have no problem fighting for what I believe in. I believe you are another one of the Deadbeats that turned your back on the Syrian women and children being gassed by Assad. When Obama wanted to make a surgical strike on Assad for violating the International Chemical Weapons ban, you and your Republican friends were all against it. 'Doormat'. When I use that word, I think of you.

 

[Cypress]

If the Germans or Japanese had the A bomb, do you think they would have used it on us?

I do not ask the USA to guide its actions based on what Nazis did or contemplated.

 

[memorygal]

I do! I’m very proud of my husband and what he endured as a 19 year old kid. He’s my hero!

good for you... usually the ones that brag are fakes...

 

[AProudLefty]

 

[Phantasmal]

Yet the American ppl were told that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary targets.

My dad was a scientist; he worked on one of the many small parts of the Manhattan Project. He believed that narrative at the time, too. But as the decades rolled on and more information came out, he changed his mind. He felt tremendous guilt over his role as a civilian scientist. No doubt many others did as well.

I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine bearing that burden. He did what he believed was right at the time.

 

[Bulletbob]

On the one hand, the argument can be made that it was morally reprehensible, but it was the least bad of a range of bad options.

On the flipside, it could be argued it crossed a line which should never be crossed.

far less died because the bomb was used I just regret it was not developed early and we had more of them . I think about a dozen for japan and Germany would of been good and a couple dozen in russia

 

[christiefan915]

My husband, a liberal, is a decorated Vietnam vet, how about yours?

A chickenhawk, I suspect.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I have no problem fighting for what I believe in. I believe you are another one of the Deadbeats that turned your back on the Syrian women and children being gassed by Assad. When Obama wanted to make a surgical strike on Assad for violating the International Chemical Weapons ban, you and your Republican friends were all against it. 'Doormat'. When I use that word, I think of you.

No doubt, Jack, no doubt. Sorry, but unless you served yourself, you have no standing to denigrate others for their pacifist beliefs. The only battles you've ever engaged in were the ones with the mods over your multiple 12b bannings.

 

[AProudLefty]

'Loose Lips, Sink Ships'.

If we gave them some kind of warning, would they have believed it? Clear the civilian populace?

 

[AProudLefty]

The Atomic bomb saved lives.

That is not in question.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine bearing that burden. He did what he believed was right at the time.

Yes, he did. When I was only 8 or 9, he purchased John Hersey's Hiroshima and discussed it with me after I read it. His way, I think, of atonement.

 

[AProudLefty]

So the Japanese could shoot down our bombers?

Could they have done that while the bomber was around 6 miles high?

 

[Phantasmal]

I agree. Only Phantasmal is saying she will fight for nothing ... no idea, no family, no philosophy.

I always fight for those things, I just do not take up arms. The pen is mightier than the sword.

 

[memorygal]

I always fight for those things, I just do not take up arms. The pen is mightier than the sword.

no one has taken up arms...

 

[christiefan915]

what does that mean?
Truman had a duty to end the war. it was a WORLD WAR, the alternative was invading Japan
is that the skin you mean?

It means that people who had no families or friends who got tortured or died in wars find it a lot easier to justify attacks like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

[memorygal]

I always fight for those things, I just do not take up arms. The pen is mightier than the sword.

no one has taken up arms...

 

[Jack]

No doubt, Jack, no doubt. Sorry, but unless you served yourself, you have no standing to denigrate others for their pacifist beliefs. The only battles you've ever engaged in were the ones with the mods over your multiple 12b bannings.

It's a Politics Forum, we're all here to voice our opinions. You support Deadbeats and being a Doormat. I support defending America and Western Values. (like NOT gassing women and children with Internationally Banned Chemical Weapons)

 

[Phantasmal]

She's a Christian, unlike the assholes who claim to be Christians but never act like one.

I embrace the teachings of Jesus, do no harm, turn the other cheek, etc., but I do not practice any religion.